Episode 200: Twelve Steps for Agnostics

In this episode, we meet Andy F., an agnostic who got sober in AA and is now writing a book about his experience overcoming his initial objections to the Twelve Steps. 

Key points and topics discussed 

  • Andy’s experience as a child in foster care.
  • First doubts about God and religion. 
  • Mental illness and alcoholism.
  • Time in prison.
  • First impressions of AA.
  • Obstacles with the Twelve Steps.
  • Why therapy wasn’t working.
  • Andy’s view of victimization.

Memorable quotes 

By the time I was 13 years old, I had a massive chip on my shoulder about the way I was treated by my foster mother, I was very angry at my mother for giving me up for foster care, so I became angry and bitter as a young man at the age of 15 or 16. While this was going on, my mother became an active alcoholic. – Andy 

I was an alcoholic from the moment I picked up my first drink. I had to get as out of my head as possible so that I wouldn’t feel the pain and the confusion and the rage that I felt both towards my mother for abandoning me, to God if he did exist, and my foster mother. – Andy 

I loved the meetings because, for the first time in my life, I felt that I belonged somewhere. Coming to the Fellowship was a homecoming. – Andy 


Andy’s website AA for Agnostics 

Andy’s story at AA Agnostica